From: Alan Hall <oldeddoc**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] PPE Excuses for Non-Compliance
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 19:39:24 -0500
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
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Et al,

Whine, whine, whine.

"Seat belts in a vehicle are death traps and keep me from using my cell phone to text and eat my hamburger,"

Sure, mine fog up my glasses when I wear the face mask as I should.

WillI stop doing so until this blasted virus burns itself out? No.

Goggles are better than safety glasses. Nuts, some labs I've visited thought my reading glasses were good enough. I wore the goggles.

My 2 cents worth.

Alan

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:22 PM Jeffrey Lewin <jclewin**At_Symbol_Here**mtu.edu> wrote:
  • The activity I'm doing doesn't require eye protection (using a microscope in a biology lab)
  • The activity I'm doing isn't hazardous, nor are there any hazardous activities in the lab (using a computer with no "active" experiments running, i.e. no one else working in the lab, but there are unattended experiments running)
  • The activity I'm doing isn't hazardous and other hazardous activities are "far enough" away (putting tape on the floor to designate "office" activity areas - especially problematic where students regularly use, either by choice or assignment, office space in the lab as their primary working area)
  • "I'm wearing safety glasses" i.e. impact glasses when the hazard calls for splash goggles
  • "That noise isn't _that_ loud "
  • "I'm wearing my ear buds, doesn't that count as ear plugs?"
  • "I have a face shield on, why do I need safety glasses?
  • (In a shop) holding up your hand in front of your face instead of putting impact eye protection
  • "I have leather boots on, why do I need safety toes?"
  • We once had a student show up in lab who claimed he had a "right" not to wear shoes; needless to say he was denied entry to the lab...and he never came back...but honestly, we wanted to see how he was going to go barefoot when it was 10F outside with snow coming down...
Jeff

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:59 AM Debra M Decker <00001204b93f9a5e-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:
Hi Pauline:


I was hoping that you all could help me brainstorm additional excuses that you all have heard

Eyewear:
My glasses fog up.
I have to wear prescription glasses and safety glasses don't fit over my prescription glasses.
They hurt my ears.
The lenses are scratched.
I can't get close enough to my work (microscope use).
I'm working in the biosafety cabinet, fume hood, glove box and I have the sash/window in front of me..

Lab coat:
Too hot
Too tight
Too loose
Too long
Too short
The sleeves drag in my work.
Someone else wore it and it's not clean.
It might get caught in the equipment.
I don't care if my clothes get chemicals on them.
I'm allergic.

Fundamentally, I think, it's ill-fitting PPE that people don't want to wear. If you go down this road, I hope the Institute is prepared to invest in a variety of sizes and shapes of PPE.

Itll be interesting to see what others come up with.

Best
Debbie

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